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Not posted for a while, maybe a break was what was needed to really realise the absolute nonsense of this 12 step thing. I know this thing kills and screws minds up, but this book, the BB, is total garbage. I dont understand now how I ever took this stepper garbage serious.

How they get you

This is from a story titled A Drunk Like You in the 4th edition of the Big Book. Notice the shifting that goes on here on pg 399-400:

http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/bigbook/pdf/theystoppedintime15.pdf

1) Dude goes and sees Liberal Artist Therapist.

2) Liberal Artist Therapist tells Dude to limit his drinking to 5 a day.

3) Dude successfully limits himself to 5 drinks a day.

A Pathway of a Different Sort

I keep going to AA meetings even though they lost much of their attraction. Actually, I feel more disconnected with each meeting I attend. It never use to be this way, I always enjoyed a close kinship with the people of AA. For 24 years I've benefited from the groups' wisdom, the camaraderie, and watching people rise above dreadful conditions. I've taken pleasure connecting with AA members and I liked the feeling of being accepted no matter what AA door I passed through whether the door was in another city or another state.

Not Beholden to the Cult of AA / yes I know I am speaking to the choir

There was a time that I " drank like a pig " probably threw up more alcohol than some folks consumed. Did this for quite few years and at one point was conned into believing ,when I was very young to seek out AA, with promises of fellowship, connections, and "true happiness' in the form of sobriety.

BREAKING NEWS KARLA BRADA CASE finally has a pre trial date . May 22, 2013

19 months after the death of Karla Brada finally , finally a pre trial date. I went all the way out there and missed the few moments I waited for last time...that took all day ....but today was different.

Eric Allan Earl is going to go to trial for the alleged murder of Karla Brada , daughter of Hector and Jaro Mendez, two of the sweetest , most wonderful people.

Nothing is over!

Sponsorman: You did everything to make this private war happen. You've done enough damage. This mission is over, Pennywise. Do you understand me? This mission is over! Look at them "out there"! Look at them! If you won't end this now, you will relapse. Is that what you want? It's over, Penny. It's over!

Congratulations Orange Papers

Over 2.8 million hits in March - a new record. Soon going to be breaking the 3 million mark. The word must be getting out.

Bill Wilson Meets Ebby Thatcher

Boniface the musical

Who protects abusive treatment programs? Senator Diamond Bill, that's who

A review of his book (with Wayne's permission)

The two ex Elan staff members in comments are both steppers of the lowest order

http://www.amazon.com/review/R11UJS7KUYGJPU/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&A...

The author is a fraud January 3, 2013
By Wayne Kernochan
Format:Kindle Edition

All You Need Is AA

AA, AA, AA.
AA, AA, AA.
AA, AA, AA.

There's nothing you can do that can be done.
Nothing you can drink that can be drunk.
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game.
It's easy.

Nothing you can make that can be made.
No one you can save that can be saved.
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be someone else in time.
It's easy.

All you need is AA.
All you need is AA.
All you need is AA, AA.
AA is all you need.

Amends

It’s been a while since I posted on these pages, and I think it’s time to update you all on my thinking.

Alcoholics Anonymous: God-Based AA program Harms

http://religionvirus.blogspot.com/2010/04/christian-shocker-god-based-aa...
Monday, April 26, 2010
Christian Shocker: God-Based AA Program Harms Alcoholics

Did Bill W start AA as a con from the very beginning?

In one of his earlier writing (can't remember which, but someone will) Bill W stated that you had to approach several hundred alcoholics to get just a handful interested. Did Bill W accidentally come across the spontaneous remission rate for alcoholics and turn it to his own advantage?

The "Back To Basics" sub-cult of Alcoholics Anonymous sample letter begging the courts to send them prospects as part of sentencing...

Subject: Court Ordering Alcohol and Drug Offenders to the Back to Basics Beginners' Meetings

Dear (Judge/Sheriff/Officer, etc.) (Addressee Name)

(Mr./Ms) (Back to Basics Meeting Leader) has asked me to write you about an option that is now available to the (City/County/ State) judicial system. Instead of ordering alcohol and drug offenders to "open" A.A. or other Twelve-Step programs, we request that you consider sending them to the Back to Basics Beginners’ Meetings

Sexual Harassment =13 Stepping in AA /NA world

WHy didnt I put two and two together when I was in there trying make it safer? Every where we went they said "thats an outside issue" "No its not" we Yelled back!

But is was these past few months where I realized when the older dudes meets miss newcomer, its in a meeting and he begins to flirt with her there. Even if a guy makes sexual slurs you have rights.

Coercion by a Rock Band into AA, NA and to stop taking medication? The Strange but true story of Great White and Jack Russell - March 2013

In a very strange course of events the rock band "Great White" (http://www.greatwhiterocks.com/) attempted to coerce its once lead singer Jack Russell into going to AA and NA meetings every week and to stop taking medications such as "prednisone" a steroid and "methadone" a Doctor prescribed maintenance medicine before he is allowed back, despite being hospitalized and in Rehab many times before. Mr. Russell even ended up marrying one of his nurses.

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