www.orange-papers.org

Is there anyone here who was in AA/NA for a long time. Abstinent....left, deprogrammed and is successfully moderating easily and no prob...

Please contact me asap. You must be willing to go on the record and use your name.

makeaasafer@gmail.com

The link between SYNANON, Straight, Inc, The Seed, Elan School and Bill Wilson is often missed by the casual observer, but for those that are familiar with these teen torture camps for fun and profit, the link is very obvious because the confrontational therapy model they employed all came from the teachings of Charles E. "Chuck" Dederich, Sr., (1913–1997) who was enrolled in the same LSD study from the University of California that Bill Wilson was in during 1957 (http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/3430).

Sarah Winters, 40 was strangled to death on July 10, 2012 in a boarding house at 410 N. Washington Ave in Mason City Iowa. Arrested for her death and currently on trial is Aaron Harris, 36 who met her at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting in 2010 in AA General Service Area 24, District 14 (http://www.aa-iowa.org/index.php?id=95).

I found this, just for a bit of fun at first, but was surprised by how they define a cult.

http://www.insolitology.com/rationally/culttest.htm

By my reckoning AA scores 33, but I may be a bit biased. Have a go and see how you rate them.

4 feet of going to any length in the mailbox. Serenity terrorism courtesy of Synanon.

http://www.paulmorantz.com/the_synanon_story/the-true-story-of-the-rattl...

WE had a blog on here about a year ago, maybe more, where people posted funny YouTube links re AA. It seems like a good time to resurrect it, and hopefully add to it, as we seem to have quite a flow of new people coming in.

Here's 3 links to get the ball rolling

Penn and Teller - 12 step Bullshit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU2YliYttnQ

Roseanne - My name is Bev

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK8rhnuku68

So you'd like to... Find Your way out of AA Indoctrination!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/R1BOV3EQEHHA3B

Join one woman as she tells us her tale of how her fathers membership in AA outweighed her own birthday cakes.

AA teaches adults to become even more selfish?

Call in to speak with the host (818) 475-9211

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/saferecovery/2013/05/07/growing-up-on-aa-cu...

Hi,

Take heed. Brute force cannot work. Rather, you must shatter the illusion to slay the man behind the glass!

When you quit drinking you may be faced with some pretty serious life problems. It's not always easy to deal with cravings when you know that you have managed your life so poorly. There are a lot of problems associated with your alcohol abuse that need to be solved.

Have You Been Sexually Harassed, Assaulted, Molested or Raped by an Alcoholics Anonymous/Narcotics Anonymous Member
Posted on April 8, 2013
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I know I have asked this before on my www.stop13stepinaa.wordpress.com but I am not sure if I ever asked this here.

Please contact me now if you want to get justice served. CALL HOTLINE –

Phone # 424-543-4310 for confidential help.

1) were you a child who was molested by an AA/NA member. ( it doesn’t matter how long ago)

In a story very reminiscent of the Midtown Washington, DC story of women being sexually preyed upon in recovery exposed by Marc Fisher in 2007 in the Washington Post (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2007/07/midtown_group_aa_group_...), investigate reporter Heather Catallo of Channel 7 ABC NEWS has uncovered the braking story of Mark Burchell and "Doorway To Recovery" sober homes in the Detroit, Michigan area.

I found this on another forum and it made me laugh so much I felt I had to share it. (Fuck AA - even had a little cringe using the word "share"). It was posted by one of the more militant (euphemism for bat-shit crazy) members. It's so typical of AA's "shift the blame" attitude and really belies so many of the arguments put up by the faithful.

Maybe it would be fun to add a few reasons why people left - any ideas.

PS. I highlighted the part that confirms that if you leave you will be shunned. There's no better source than the horse's mouth.

I got Twelve Steps on the wall
I got six sponsees to call
I'm a guru

AA's the only way
better listen to what I say
I'm a guru

I can ramble on all hour
talkin' 'bout my higher power
I'm a guru

My shares all take a while
I got my sponsor on speed dial
I'm a guru

I'll speak on any topic
you know my words are psychotropic
I'm a guru

I'm a guru
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I see through you

To save your soul from heist,
better turn your life to Christ
and your guru